1- almost realizes that this is a logical outcome of the 60s, but can't disavow it
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2- almost realizes role of Enlightenment in creating this situation, but only brings up fundie examples
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3- explicit (but likely unintended) endorsement of Moldbug's "Puritan Hypothesis"
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Conveniently leaves out the connection between esalen and US military and CIA lol
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ok but ignoring CIA involvement in something is pretty standard
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I'm slightly skeptical; he comes off as a baby boomers he thinks the 60s was more important b/c it happened when he was young
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