the Easterns began practicing caesaropapism in like the 300s, but it's a TOTAL COINCIDENCE that the guys who made state > church survived.
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this debate can be considered done
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this is such a stupid argument: am I supposed to address their longevity or not?
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the state that put itself before the church eventually died, the church that put itself before the state is still around, that's all
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we are making arguments about political longevity when combined with religion
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on that account, one could make the case that Eastern Christians managed to cobble something together that lasted for a long time
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