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    1. Haunted Forrest  🌲‏ @380kmh 1 Mar 2017
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      ...before reaching the Kotoden hub at Kawaramachi (12284/day), where you can transfer to the other two Kotoden lines or shop at their storepic.twitter.com/iYmLpnBj4q

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    2. Haunted Forrest  🌲‏ @380kmh 1 Mar 2017
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      The line continues past Kawaramachi to Kataharamachi (4886) and Takamatsu Chikko (10824), a scenic terminal next to the city's castlepic.twitter.com/XNi72f71iG

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    3. Haunted Forrest  🌲‏ @380kmh 1 Mar 2017
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      Kotoden's other lines have roughly the same range in ridership: busy stops hitting 4 digits, quieter stops hitting 3 digits (some just 2!)

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    4. Haunted Forrest  🌲‏ @380kmh 1 Mar 2017
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      How does this compare with Boston? First, a quick disclaimer: Boston's commuter rail ridership only counts *inbound* boards...

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    5. Haunted Forrest  🌲‏ @380kmh 1 Mar 2017
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      ...since it is assumed that (and scheduled accordingly) most trips are suburb-to-downtown in AM, reverse in PM, instead of two-way all day

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    6. Haunted Forrest  🌲‏ @380kmh 1 Mar 2017
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      In other words: ridership totals that I present for Boston are lower than what is actually there--but not by very much.

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    7. Haunted Forrest  🌲‏ @380kmh 1 Mar 2017
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      South Station is the busiest stop--consider it Boston's Kawaramachi--on the commuter rail, with 21,772 daily boardspic.twitter.com/ACeeWwyT2L

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    8. Haunted Forrest  🌲‏ @380kmh 1 Mar 2017
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      The second busiest--Boston's Takamatsu Chikko--is North Station, with 16,436 daily boardspic.twitter.com/xQwEFwCaB7

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    9. Haunted Forrest  🌲‏ @380kmh 1 Mar 2017
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      So, Boston's two terminals are much busier than Kotoden's terminals--but the rest of Boston's network is a bit anemic by comparisonpic.twitter.com/W64fVDDyvt

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    10. Haunted Forrest  🌲‏ @380kmh 1 Mar 2017
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      On balance? Boston's doing pretty well given the prevailing culture, infrequent schedules, and outdated technology

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      Haunted Forrest  🌲‏ @380kmh 1 Mar 2017

      Addressing these problems--switching from peak-heavy to all-day timetables, replacing locomotives with DMUs, etc--would boost ridership

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        2. Haunted Forrest  🌲‏ @380kmh 1 Mar 2017
          Replying to @380kmh

          Is the demand there? Given the overcrowding on *existing* commuter rail in Boston, I would assume so--people want more service!pic.twitter.com/vjSuTvJS7L

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        3. Haunted Forrest  🌲‏ @380kmh 1 Mar 2017
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          Is this enough for profitability in Boston? Unfortunately, no--for two crucial reasons, as far as I can tell.

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        4. Haunted Forrest  🌲‏ @380kmh 1 Mar 2017
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          The first problem for Boston is that its network is much more extensive than Kotoden's, in terms of mileage--more costly to maintain!

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        5. Haunted Forrest  🌲‏ @380kmh 1 Mar 2017
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          The second problem is that Kotoden is already a private company which owns its track, its stations, other real estate etc...

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        6. Haunted Forrest  🌲‏ @380kmh 1 Mar 2017
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          ...this gives it a flexibility that Boston doesn't have (for now). So--what WOULD be enough to make Boston's commuter rail profitable?

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        7. Haunted Forrest  🌲‏ @380kmh 1 Mar 2017
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          Remember that we've been comparing Boston to a city 20% of its size. A five-fold increase in ridership is a crucial hurdle here.

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        8. Haunted Forrest  🌲‏ @380kmh 1 Mar 2017
          Replying to @380kmh

          Is that particularly likely? Depends on how commuter rail is improved. Would it be easy? Definitely not.

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        9. Haunted Forrest  🌲‏ @380kmh 1 Mar 2017
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          But it is definitely possible, given the popularity of the existing system and the degree to which it can be improved.

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        10. Haunted Forrest  🌲‏ @380kmh 1 Mar 2017
          Replying to @380kmh

          Anyway--that wraps it up for this investigation. Stay tuned for investigations of other lines, profitable and subsidized alike...

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        11. Haunted Forrest  🌲‏ @380kmh 1 Mar 2017
          Replying to @380kmh

          ...as we explore the boundaries of profitable ridership. #TrainTwitter

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        2. Alon Levy‏ @alon_levy 1 Mar 2017
          Replying to @380kmh

          What is the largest city in Japan that runs a DMU on its commuter rail network? Sapporo?

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        3. Haunted Forrest  🌲‏ @380kmh 1 Mar 2017
          Replying to @alon_levy

          Sapporo electrified the commuter portion of the Sassho Line recently--I'm not sure they use any DMUs for commuter travel anymore

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        4. Haunted Forrest  🌲‏ @380kmh 1 Mar 2017
          Replying to @380kmh @alon_levy

          I am thinking of DMUs here as a stepping stone before full electrification--no need to wait to start saving money, etc

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        5. Alon Levy‏ @alon_levy 1 Mar 2017
          Replying to @380kmh

          DMUs don't save money; they cost more. And the procurement wouldn't take much less time than wiring the system.

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        6. Haunted Forrest  🌲‏ @380kmh 1 Mar 2017
          Replying to @alon_levy

          ...are they really more expensive? Why don't they use locomotives on diesel lines in Japan, then?

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        7. Alon Levy‏ @alon_levy 1 Mar 2017
          Replying to @380kmh

          *DMUs cost more than EMUs. Obviously they're better than locomotives, which is why Japan has like 20 locos nationwide.

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        8. Haunted Forrest  🌲‏ @380kmh 1 Mar 2017
          Replying to @alon_levy

          ok, you had me going for a minute there...

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