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    Haunted Forrest  🌲‏ @380kmh 3 Jan 2017

    The city problem: successful, growing cities have a constant need for new workers, BUT their own residents usually don't have (enough) kids

    7:17 AM - 3 Jan 2017
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      2. Haunted Forrest  🌲‏ @380kmh 3 Jan 2017
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        When Tokyo's population exploded after WWII, it wasn't bc everyone in Tokyo was having lots of kids, but bc the entire Tohoku region...

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      3. Haunted Forrest  🌲‏ @380kmh 3 Jan 2017
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        ...moved into the city. This is fine and dandy until rural places run out of people to send.

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      4. Haunted Forrest  🌲‏ @380kmh 3 Jan 2017
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        When a city's population can't grow, its economy can't develop much further...historically, there are two things you can do at that point

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      5. Haunted Forrest  🌲‏ @380kmh 3 Jan 2017
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        The first option is to stagnate and hope for the best. Hope other cities will take up the work of economic development where you left off.

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      6. Haunted Forrest  🌲‏ @380kmh 3 Jan 2017
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        The second option is to start importing foreign workers. Rome did this, New York does this, London only started this fairly recently.

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      7. Haunted Forrest  🌲‏ @380kmh 3 Jan 2017
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        To try and turn the entire *world* into your rural hinterland is a characteristically imperial move.

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      8. Haunted Forrest  🌲‏ @380kmh 3 Jan 2017
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        And, just like empires themselves, such a move works pretty well until it doesn't. Eventually even the world runs out of people to send.

        1 reply 3 retweets 5 likes
      9. Haunted Forrest  🌲‏ @380kmh 3 Jan 2017
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        So: why bother with cities in the first place? Cities are where we develop technology--outside them, regression to nature is the rule.

        1 reply 2 retweets 4 likes
      10. Haunted Forrest  🌲‏ @380kmh 3 Jan 2017
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        You can analogize them to stars: stars are where elements heavier than hydrogen are made. Outside stars, you slide back to absolute zero.

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      11. Haunted Forrest  🌲‏ @380kmh 3 Jan 2017
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        Humans cut off entirely from cities gradually lose the use of technologies they once had. If undisturbed for long enough, we'll forget fire.

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      12. Haunted Forrest  🌲‏ @380kmh 3 Jan 2017
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        Now, this is fine if you earnestly believe humans should live among other animals as other animals.

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      13. Haunted Forrest  🌲‏ @380kmh 3 Jan 2017
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        But if you want to see where technological development will go, then you want cities to work. Which brings us back to the problem.

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      14. Haunted Forrest  🌲‏ @380kmh 3 Jan 2017
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        While city populations grow by migration, city technology develops by imitation. Up-and-coming cities imitate mature cities...

        2 replies 1 retweet 1 like
      15. Haunted Forrest  🌲‏ @380kmh 3 Jan 2017
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        ...finding new, locally practical ways to accomplish the same results. This creation of new ways of working creates demand for more workers.

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      16. Haunted Forrest  🌲‏ @380kmh 3 Jan 2017
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        Eventually, an up-and-coming city has imitated all that's worth imitating, invented whatever it can invent, and become a mature city.

        1 reply 1 retweet 2 likes
      17. Haunted Forrest  🌲‏ @380kmh 3 Jan 2017
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        A mature city can only grow again when it finds itself "backward," behind the level of development of newer mature cities...

        2 replies 1 retweet 2 likes
      18. Haunted Forrest  🌲‏ @380kmh 3 Jan 2017
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        ...and therefore in a position to imitate and invent once again. Some cities pull this off, some never do, and simply stagnate indefinitely.

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      19. Haunted Forrest  🌲‏ @380kmh 3 Jan 2017
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        This is the other problem with the imperial approach: betting that all future development will come out of one ever-growing city.

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