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    1. Haunted Forrest  🌲‏ @380kmh 9 Oct 2016
      Replying to @380kmh

      In sum: Vancouver REDUCED travel times by allowing congestion, Montreal INCREASED travel times by trying to eliminate it.

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    2. Haunted Forrest  🌲‏ @380kmh 9 Oct 2016
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      Next topic--land use and population density. Mees quotes "Building the 21st Century Home," a widely-used guidebook...

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    3. Haunted Forrest  🌲‏ @380kmh 9 Oct 2016
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      "We may lament the decline in public transport...it must be recognized that reduction of housing densities has played its part..."

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    4. Haunted Forrest  🌲‏ @380kmh 9 Oct 2016
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      "...densities of 100 persons per hectare are required to support a viable bus service and around 240 persons per hectare for a tram service"

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    5. Haunted Forrest  🌲‏ @380kmh 9 Oct 2016
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      Sounds reasonable--except that by this metric no city in Europe should have trams, except Paris (with its 250 residents per hectare).

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    6. Haunted Forrest  🌲‏ @380kmh 9 Oct 2016
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      To counter the density argument, Mees considers the efforts of the Toronto Transit Commission (TTC) between the 1960s and 1980s

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    7. Haunted Forrest  🌲‏ @380kmh 9 Oct 2016
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      Toronto has a small subway system; abt 15-20% of its residents live in walking distance of a station. But the remainder also use it...

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    8. Haunted Forrest  🌲‏ @380kmh 9 Oct 2016
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      ...because Toronto's bus network is *functionally* an extension of the subway. Feeder buses and trams timed to connect with subway trains.

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    9. Haunted Forrest  🌲‏ @380kmh 9 Oct 2016
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      Melbourne, despite having a far more extensive rail system than Toronto, has lower per-capita use because it ignores network principles.

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    10. Haunted Forrest  🌲‏ @380kmh 9 Oct 2016
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      Only 10% of Melbourne's train passengers get to the station by bus, vs 76% in Toronto. 69% walk to the station in Melbourne, 20% in Toronto.

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      Haunted Forrest  🌲‏ @380kmh 9 Oct 2016

      If Toronto only bothered w passengers who could walk to the station, it wouldn't have enough ridership to justify running trains every 5 min

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        2. Haunted Forrest  🌲‏ @380kmh 9 Oct 2016
          Replying to @380kmh

          ...seven days a week, as late as 1:45 AM. By synchronizing buses with trains, it dramatically increases catchment areas for each station.

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        3. Haunted Forrest  🌲‏ @380kmh 9 Oct 2016
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          This is a two-way synergy--the buses made themselves *more useful* too by syncing w subway. This allowed for frequent bus service all year.

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        4. Haunted Forrest  🌲‏ @380kmh 9 Oct 2016
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          Running every 10 minutes or better all day, with cross-city and radial routes, Toronto stands out for *bus to bus* transfers too!

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        5. Haunted Forrest  🌲‏ @380kmh 9 Oct 2016
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          Last major point--on transit ridership and urban form in Switzerland.

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        6. Haunted Forrest  🌲‏ @380kmh 9 Oct 2016
          Replying to @380kmh

          Mees mentions Switzerland throughout his book, but begins by looking at Sternenberg, a rural municipality near Zurich, population 349.

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        7. Haunted Forrest  🌲‏ @380kmh 9 Oct 2016
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          Most people in Sternenberg live in farms, or tiny hamlets of 3-4 dwellings. The village center is a few houses around an old church.

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        8. Haunted Forrest  🌲‏ @380kmh 9 Oct 2016
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          In the USA, Sternenberg would have no public transport at all. But instead, it has 7 buses every weekday, 5 on weekends (7 in the summer).

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        9. Haunted Forrest  🌲‏ @380kmh 9 Oct 2016
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          19% of workers in Sternenberg use transit; 10% walk or bike, the rest drive. That's better mode share than ANY American city except NYC!!

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        10. Haunted Forrest  🌲‏ @380kmh 9 Oct 2016
          Replying to @380kmh

          What gives? Density can't explain it, and even frequency is too low. Something else is going on here...

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        11. Haunted Forrest  🌲‏ @380kmh 9 Oct 2016
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          Every bus serving Sternenberg goes to Bauma (pop 1000), the nearest town w a train station, just in time for riders to connect to the train.

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        12. Haunted Forrest  🌲‏ @380kmh 9 Oct 2016
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          That train, in turn, connects to the regional hub at Winterthur, just in time for connections to Zurich, the airport, and other centers...

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        13. Haunted Forrest  🌲‏ @380kmh 9 Oct 2016
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          This synchronization works in reverse, too--ride a train from Zurich to Winterthur, you'll be in time to connect to Bauma, then Sternenberg.

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        14. Haunted Forrest  🌲‏ @380kmh 9 Oct 2016
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          This is the NETWORK EFFECT. This is how public transit works with itself to be useful *anywhere* it goes, no matter how rural.

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        15. Haunted Forrest  🌲‏ @380kmh 9 Oct 2016
          Replying to @380kmh

          I mentioned that Mees does not discuss Japan--does Japan use this network effect, too? Sort of...

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        16. Haunted Forrest  🌲‏ @380kmh 9 Oct 2016
          Replying to @380kmh

          Mees sought to show that density is not the final arbiter of transit's usefulness. But it *does* still play a role, which he acknowledges.

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        17. Haunted Forrest  🌲‏ @380kmh 9 Oct 2016
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          Density is a big factor in determining frequency--note the low frequency in Sternenberg. In Japanese cities, density is usually a given...

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        18. Haunted Forrest  🌲‏ @380kmh 9 Oct 2016
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          ...so there's no difficulty in justifying high frequency service. Where frequency is high enough, timed connections become moot...

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        19. Haunted Forrest  🌲‏ @380kmh 9 Oct 2016
          Replying to @380kmh

          ...bc the waiting times are so low that there's always a connection in a minute or two. In rural areas, Japan times its connections though.

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        20. Haunted Forrest  🌲‏ @380kmh 9 Oct 2016
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          But for places like Massachusetts? Density isn't going to justify service in most places unless the network is INTEGRATED like the Swiss one

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        21. Haunted Forrest  🌲‏ @380kmh 9 Oct 2016
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          All other factors aside, service frequency--aka, how long do I have to wait?--is the main driver of transit ridership.

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        22. Haunted Forrest  🌲‏ @380kmh 9 Oct 2016
          Replying to @380kmh

          Density, in turn, is main driver of frequency. What an integrated network does is put low freq service into a context that makes it USEFUL!

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        23. Haunted Forrest  🌲‏ @380kmh 9 Oct 2016
          Replying to @380kmh

          Those 7 buses to Sternenberg would have no riders if they didn't connect to trains at Bauma, EVEN IF THEY STILL WENT TO BAUMA!

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        24. Haunted Forrest  🌲‏ @380kmh 9 Oct 2016
          Replying to @380kmh

          This is because Sternenberg-Bauma is not a very demanded route *on its own.* But Sternenberg to Bauma/Winterthur/Zurich/Airport?

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        25. Haunted Forrest  🌲‏ @380kmh 9 Oct 2016
          Replying to @380kmh

          Network effects in transit MULTIPLY the number of trips that are possible from a given point of origin. We can do this in the USA!

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