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    1. Haunted Forrest  🌲‏ @380kmh 30 Aug 2016

      Those familiar with @humantransit's work will know that in the realm of public transit there is a tradeoff between coverage and ridership.

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    2. Haunted Forrest  🌲‏ @380kmh 30 Aug 2016
      Replying to @380kmh

      Coverage focuses on maximizing access to transit geographically, and for making sure that the most marginalized riders have access.

      1 reply 2 retweets 2 likes
    3. Haunted Forrest  🌲‏ @380kmh 30 Aug 2016
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      Ridership focuses (as you would expect) on maximizing the number of riders on the system, even if that means limiting geographic scale...

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    4. Haunted Forrest  🌲‏ @380kmh 30 Aug 2016
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      ...and failing to ensure access for some of those who can't drive due to age, income, or disability.

      1 reply 2 retweets 3 likes
    5. Haunted Forrest  🌲‏ @380kmh 30 Aug 2016
      Replying to @380kmh

      Transit agencies in the USA generally try to strike a balance between the two goals, skewing (by my perception) in favor of coverage.

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    6. Haunted Forrest  🌲‏ @380kmh 30 Aug 2016
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      Why the bias in favor of coverage over ridership? Because our transit agencies are government-run, and mainly rely on guardian ethics.

      1 reply 2 retweets 6 likes
    7. Haunted Forrest  🌲‏ @380kmh 30 Aug 2016
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      Guardian ethics are the ethics of administration and governance; commercial ethics are the ethics of the market.pic.twitter.com/Pq1xmIOMjn

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    8. Haunted Forrest  🌲‏ @380kmh 30 Aug 2016
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      The guardian mentality applies to things which don't benefit from competition, like police services or governments. Best to just have one!

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      Haunted Forrest  🌲‏ @380kmh 30 Aug 2016

      The guardian mentality is concerned with the welfare of its subjects, and tries to work with equal effectiveness throughout its territory.

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        2. Haunted Forrest  🌲‏ @380kmh 30 Aug 2016
          Replying to @380kmh

          The commercial mentality, on the other hand, applies to things which benefit from competition. The more the merrier!

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        3. Haunted Forrest  🌲‏ @380kmh 30 Aug 2016
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          The commercial mentality is concerned with maximizing customers, and so it tends to concentrate its work where it's most effective.

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        4. Haunted Forrest  🌲‏ @380kmh 30 Aug 2016
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          You can get a sense for what falls into what category by asking: is this something every little hamlet needs, or is it an urban luxury?

          1 reply 1 retweet 2 likes
        5. Haunted Forrest  🌲‏ @380kmh 30 Aug 2016
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          So, back to transit: the ridership and coverage dichotomy at the heart of transit is really two different things with the same label.

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        6. Haunted Forrest  🌲‏ @380kmh 30 Aug 2016
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          "Coverage transit" means providing a trip for anyone who needs one, from anywhere to anywhere, when they need it.

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        7. Haunted Forrest  🌲‏ @380kmh 30 Aug 2016
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          This sort of service will be very expensive to provide and impossible to schedule regularly--but it can be done. It already exists!

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        8. Haunted Forrest  🌲‏ @380kmh 30 Aug 2016
          Replying to @380kmh

          The more common term for "coverage transit" in the USA today is "paratransit." People who need it sign up and book trips as needed.

          2 replies 1 retweet 1 like
        9. Haunted Forrest  🌲‏ @380kmh 30 Aug 2016
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          Unsurprisingly, this sort of service is VERY expensive to provide, relative to conventional "fixed-route" transit.

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        10. Haunted Forrest  🌲‏ @380kmh 30 Aug 2016
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          In my neck of the woods, a conventional trip costs about $2.50 to provide, a paratransit trip costs about $25.00

          1 reply 1 retweet 1 like
        11. Haunted Forrest  🌲‏ @380kmh 30 Aug 2016
          Replying to @380kmh

          So if guardian transit is what we call paratransit, does that mean that commercial transit is fixed-route? You bet!

          1 reply 1 retweet 1 like
        12. Haunted Forrest  🌲‏ @380kmh 30 Aug 2016
          Replying to @380kmh

          A fixed-route service operates according to a regular schedule, along a specified route, making stops at predetermined locations.

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        13. Haunted Forrest  🌲‏ @380kmh 30 Aug 2016
          Replying to @380kmh

          If you get the schedule, route, and stops right, this sort of transit can be incredibly profitable--as is the case in Tokyo and Osaka.

          1 reply 1 retweet 1 like
        14. Haunted Forrest  🌲‏ @380kmh 30 Aug 2016
          Replying to @380kmh

          The ideal form of coverage transit is something like a taxi (which, as I've mentioned before, is a type of public transit).

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        15. Haunted Forrest  🌲‏ @380kmh 30 Aug 2016
          Replying to @380kmh

          The ideal form of ridership transit is something like a (grade-separated!) train.

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        16. Haunted Forrest  🌲‏ @380kmh 30 Aug 2016
          Replying to @380kmh

          The difference between the two has to do with the sort of networks they run on. The one uses a road system, the other uses dedicated tracks.

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        17. Haunted Forrest  🌲‏ @380kmh 30 Aug 2016
          Replying to @380kmh

          A vehicle on roads stops at most junctions, whenever it needs to change its route. A vehicle on dedicated tracks *only* stops for riders.

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        18. Haunted Forrest  🌲‏ @380kmh 30 Aug 2016
          Replying to @380kmh

          A bus or trolley that operates in mixed transit, by the way, is the worst of both worlds. It stops for every light AND for every stop.

          1 reply 1 retweet 1 like
        19. Haunted Forrest  🌲‏ @380kmh 30 Aug 2016
          Replying to @380kmh

          This has some implications for transit provision: where ridership is too low to justify commercial transit, stick to ensuring coverage.

          1 reply 1 retweet 1 like
        20. Haunted Forrest  🌲‏ @380kmh 30 Aug 2016
          Replying to @380kmh

          On the other hand, where ridership makes commercial transit viable, take all possible steps to ensure dedicated ROW, whether or not on rails

          1 reply 1 retweet 2 likes
        21. Haunted Forrest  🌲‏ @380kmh 30 Aug 2016
          Replying to @380kmh

          Coverage transit, which cannot possibly turn a profit, should be provided by the state, as part of a social safety net.

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        22. Haunted Forrest  🌲‏ @380kmh 30 Aug 2016
          Replying to @380kmh

          Commercial transit, however, should aim for privatization and keep costs in line with revenue.

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