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    Haunted Forrest  🌲‏ @380kmh Oct 17

    Haunted Forrest  🌲 Retweeted Tony O’Lantern (1/1024th  🎃) 🇭🇷 🇯🇪

    How is "four lines in the Tokyo subway are government-run" specifically avoiding Tokyo? Tokyo also has its privatized subway system, but the standards of service there are identical to those of the government-run lines. They even interoperate!https://twitter.com/tonybalogna/status/1052613970102820866 …

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    Tony O’Lantern (1/1024th  🎃) 🇭🇷 🇯🇪 @tonybalogna
    Replying to @380kmh
    I like how you specifically avoided the Tokyo metro. Listen, I am a rail fan. I want more rail in the US. But this cherry-picking...it doesn't work. You can't compare a Tokyo-Kyoto route to a Atlanta-Miami route.
    10:53 AM - 17 Oct 2018
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      1. Haunted Forrest  🌲‏ @380kmh Oct 17

        Anyway. For fun, here is a map of the 10 largest cities in Kazakhstan, with all <100mi pairs drawn inpic.twitter.com/zFx8J1Dza0

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      2. Market Urbanism‏ @MarketUrbanism Oct 17
        Replying to @380kmh

        Aren't all of the subways in Tokyo arguably government-run? They say Tokyo Metro is "privately operated," but that "private" operator's shares are 100% held by the TMG and MLIT

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      3. Haunted Forrest  🌲‏ @380kmh Oct 17
        Replying to @MarketUrbanism

        Going out on a limb here and guessing that this is true for the newly privatized Osaka Metro

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      4. Market Urbanism‏ @MarketUrbanism Oct 17
        Replying to @380kmh

        Oooo they went through ("though") with that! This is how the JRs were privatized too, to be fair...first they "privatized" them but left them in the hands of a wholly gov't-owned company, then they gradually sold the shares. So maybe it'll be completed

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      5. Haunted Forrest  🌲‏ @380kmh Oct 17
        Replying to @MarketUrbanism

        Before JR Shikoku or Hokkaido, I'll bet

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      2. Tony O’Lantern (1/1024th  🎃) 🇭🇷 🇯🇪‏ @tonybalogna Oct 17
        Replying to @380kmh

        NYC’s subway used to be private companies, and they interoperated as well. Then the city took over and...welp...

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      3. Ҁоцит Ҁцскцlа‏ @Beepboopzzt Oct 18
        Replying to @tonybalogna @380kmh

        My counter argument is that all of Salt Lakes transit systems are private and they collude with developers to spend millions of tax subsidies building useless train stops to cheap apartments while avoiding poor areas

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      4. Haunted Forrest  🌲‏ @380kmh Oct 18
        Replying to @Beepboopzzt @tonybalogna

        SLC transit isn't private dude, it's operated by a government agency (Utah Transit Authority) and 64% of its budget comes from sales tax (15% comes from the Feds, and another 15% from passenger fares)

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      5. Ҁоцит Ҁцскцlа‏ @Beepboopzzt Oct 18
        Replying to @380kmh @tonybalogna

        My understanding is it’s a for profit private company. https://www.bloomberg.com/research/stocks/private/snapshot.asp?privcapId=4527548 … I think it’s more complicated. I’ll try to find the trib article that mentioned it.

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      6. Ҁоцит Ҁцскцlа‏ @Beepboopzzt Oct 18
        Replying to @Beepboopzzt @380kmh @tonybalogna

        Yeah I think my confusion came from several statements about how they get returns from developer investments and just the general run-it-like-businesses responses they gave after they got ass blasted by an audit four years ago. 🤷🏻‍♂️

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