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    1. Haunted Forrest  🌲‏ @380kmh Oct 17

      Haunted Forrest  🌲 Retweeted Angie Schmitt

      This is nuts--would they prefer those homeless camp somewhere that they're NOT welcome? It's not as if the city would be free of homeless people if they succeed in stopping this one guy from hostinghttps://twitter.com/schmangee/status/1052552712720670721 …

      Haunted Forrest  🌲 added,

      Angie Schmitt @schmangee
      Man this is an interesting land use case. At the polar opposite of NIMBYs is this guy in Akron who is allowing homeless people to permanently camp on his property. Of course they're going to try to use zoning to stop him tho. https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/16/us/akron-homeless-tent-city.html …
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    2. Aid-Off Fitler‏ @thelastman07 Oct 17
      Replying to @380kmh

      There are homeless shelters for a reason. The city wants to know what the homeless population is. Besides, this sets a bad precedent for non-white invaders to squat 100 people to a plot of land sizeable for 5-10

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    3. Haunted Forrest  🌲‏ @380kmh Oct 17
      Replying to @thelastman07

      Homeless people avoid shelters bro how can you not know this

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    4. Aid-Off Fitler‏ @thelastman07 Oct 17
      Replying to @380kmh

      I don't care, they are there for a reason. Use it or suffer.

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    5. Haunted Forrest  🌲‏ @380kmh Oct 17
      Replying to @thelastman07

      imbecile, using it is more suffering than not using it, otherwise guess what: they would--look what this mentality gets you!

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    6. Aid-Off Fitler‏ @thelastman07 Oct 17
      Replying to @380kmh

      okay and what about the suffering of the neighbors? Do they just not matter? What about the sudden influx of vagrants into a previously undisturbed community? People tend to be homeless for a reason, likely mental disorders or drug use that this man cannot manage

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    7. Haunted Forrest  🌲‏ @380kmh Oct 17
      Replying to @thelastman07

      dude we have plenty of homeless in my city and I take the bus to work and deal with them every day: I'm not a fan. But they are *already* here and *already* make neighbors suffer even w/o a guy playing host. I'd rather they all have somewhere to be which they'll actually go to.

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    8. Haunted Forrest  🌲‏ @380kmh Oct 17
      Replying to @380kmh @thelastman07

      If this man can't manage them, he'll figure that out, and the city will be back to square one (Akron isn't exactly a lovely place to begin with--lotta desperation there from what I can tell). If he can, so much the better for everyone except the immediately adjacent houses.

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    9. Aid-Off Fitler‏ @thelastman07 Oct 17
      Replying to @380kmh

      They can be arrested for loitering, being drunk in public, and a myriad of other crimes when in public spaces. You set a horrible precedent by allowing emotions to sway you in this case because you just know NGOs will set up legal "safe houses" to ruin previously nice areas

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    10. Haunted Forrest  🌲‏ @380kmh Oct 17
      Replying to @thelastman07

      This isn't about emotions, it's about pragmatism: arresting people for nuisance stuff like that never puts them away for good, and rarely puts them away for more than a night. Then they're right back at it again. I see it every day: I would 100% prefer someone take them in

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      Haunted Forrest  🌲‏ @380kmh Oct 17
      Replying to @380kmh @thelastman07

      As for NGO "safe houses" what exactly do you think shelters are? Do you think people don't oppose those too? I don't ultimately care where they stay so long as they're off the street: if shelters can't accomplish this, I don't see a problem with letting a volunteer try instead

      8:02 AM - 17 Oct 2018
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        2. Aid-Off Fitler‏ @thelastman07 Oct 17
          Replying to @380kmh

          Because of zoning. Certain areas are zone that only a set number of people can live in a square acreage. Do you want New Dehli in the suburbs and rural areas of America? If you can't fix a problem then you keep it contained.

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        3. Haunted Forrest  🌲‏ @380kmh Oct 17
          Replying to @thelastman07

          Ya funny story, the expenses that zoning laws add to homeownership and renting are a huge factor in why so many people can't get a place to live in the first place. Allow smaller houses, closer together--you can go pretty far in that direction w/o turning into India

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        4. Haunted Forrest  🌲‏ @380kmh Oct 17
          Replying to @380kmh @thelastman07

          Again, this is about pragmatism: do you want fewer homeless people on the street or not? If zoning both contributes to homelessness AND fails to keep them out of your neighborhood, it needs to be fixed

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        5. Aid-Off Fitler‏ @thelastman07 Oct 17
          Replying to @380kmh

          It will result in shittier situation for people who saved up enough to buy a house in the suburbs or rural area. I refuse to sacrifice that. I would rather have homeless people on the streets

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        6. Haunted Forrest  🌲‏ @380kmh Oct 17
          Replying to @thelastman07

          "I would rather have them on the streets" so why are you complaining dipshit

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        7. Aid-Off Fitler‏ @thelastman07 Oct 17
          Replying to @380kmh

          Because you are proposing that these people be allowed to live in areas zoned for lower population density

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        8. Haunted Forrest  🌲‏ @380kmh Oct 17
          Replying to @thelastman07

          And you're saying you'd rather they prowl those areas instead--knock yourself out, I guess

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        9. Aid-Off Fitler‏ @thelastman07 Oct 17
          Replying to @380kmh

          No because they stick to urban centers not to rural areas. When was the last time you saw a large homeless population in Natick?

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