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    1. Haunted Forrest  🌲‏ @380kmh Oct 4

      New terminal station under development in Bangkok:https://www.railwaygazette.com/news/news/asia/single-view/view/four-storey-bangkok-bang-sue-station-takes-shape.html …

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    2. Tony O’Lantern (1/1024th  🎃) 🇭🇷 🇯🇪‏ @tonybalogna Oct 4
      Replying to @380kmh

      China is an interesting country to watch for, re: high speed rail. They are doing unconventional things that we have been told can’t work.

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    3. Haunted Forrest  🌲‏ @380kmh Oct 4
      Replying to @tonybalogna

      This is Thailand--but what sort of things do you have in mind re: China?

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    4. Tony O’Lantern (1/1024th  🎃) 🇭🇷 🇯🇪‏ @tonybalogna Oct 4
      Replying to @380kmh

      My mind got scrambled and I read that as Beijing. But the conventional thinking in West is rail can only be successful if run by governments, financed by taxes, and cover short distances. China defying those beliefs.

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    5. Haunted Forrest  🌲‏ @380kmh Oct 4
      Replying to @tonybalogna

      Certainly conventional thinking in the West is that rail can only be successful if run by gov, financed by taxes...but overwhelmingly Westerners think rail is for long range, intercity travel--they routinely neglect suburban and regional travel

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    6. Haunted Forrest  🌲‏ @380kmh Oct 4
      Replying to @380kmh @tonybalogna

      ...also China's HSR is 100% tax financed and run by the government (well, by state-owned enterprises)

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    7. Tony O’Lantern (1/1024th  🎃) 🇭🇷 🇯🇪‏ @tonybalogna Oct 4
      Replying to @380kmh

      Yes, state-owned company. But not run by or sustained by government. What PRC does - like any owner - is it gives the company the seed money, then company is expected to support itself financially. Also much if not all of that seed money came from the other SOEs, not tax money.

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    8. Haunted Forrest  🌲‏ @380kmh Oct 4
      Replying to @tonybalogna

      For operations, maybe--but certainly not for construction of new lines

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    9. Tony O’Lantern (1/1024th  🎃) 🇭🇷 🇯🇪‏ @tonybalogna Oct 4
      Replying to @380kmh

      Private companies built almost every mile of track in the US. When when Amtrak runs on them it’s like their throw money into the furnace.

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      Haunted Forrest  🌲‏ @380kmh Oct 4
      Replying to @tonybalogna

      Yes, occasionally with free land etc from the gov, but they generally raised their own money. But that was when trains were the *only* way to go long distances at speed--it's much tougher to find investors for something like that now.

      5:46 PM - 4 Oct 2018
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        2. Tony O’Lantern (1/1024th  🎃) 🇭🇷 🇯🇪‏ @tonybalogna Oct 4
          Replying to @380kmh

          Real estate acquisition is a marginal cost in rail construction. But those rails still exist. Amtrak doesn’t have to do a thing but lease or maintain them, and they can’t seem to do it.

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        3. Haunted Forrest  🌲‏ @380kmh Oct 4
          Replying to @tonybalogna

          They're kind of crippled in the sort of service they can provide due to hostility from the freight railways that actually own and maintain the tracks--they tend to prioritize their own trains and are loathe to allow the sort of frequent service which makes passenger rail work

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        4. Haunted Forrest  🌲‏ @380kmh Oct 4
          Replying to @380kmh @tonybalogna

          That said, Amtrak is a terrible Frankenstein's monster of a company--they either need drastic overhaul or outright replacement. Most of the long-distance routes they run should probably drop their passenger service, but the senators from those states aren't fond of the idea

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        5. Haunted Forrest  🌲‏ @380kmh Oct 4
          Replying to @380kmh @tonybalogna

          If we want to study successful, profitable passenger rail, Japan is a great place to look--a lot of the railways there have been run by the same companies since their foundation (e.g. Iyotetsu). China is building a ton, but CR is currently losing money.pic.twitter.com/mInqBsRDZ7

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