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    1. Haunted Forrest  🌲‏ @380kmh Oct 4
      Replying to @capntransit @uncriticalsimon

      What can realistically be done is increase rail's mode share in passenger traffic, reducing the mode share for private cars. This would have a larger impact on public safety & the environment than getting even more of our freight traffic onto trains, bc cars are so dominant.

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    2. Cap'n Transit‏ @capntransit Oct 4
      Replying to @380kmh @uncriticalsimon

      Sorry, I'm really not interested in other people's unsubstantiated speculation about what can realistically be done. If that's all that's realistic, then realistically we're all screwed anyway.https://capntransit.blogspot.com/2012/02/political-realities.html …

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    3. Haunted Forrest  🌲‏ @380kmh Oct 4
      Replying to @capntransit @uncriticalsimon

      Literally right here in your linked article--the limitations of short-haul rail freight are not about policy but about physics, which is why *nowhere in the world,* no matter how pro-rail, is pulling it offpic.twitter.com/q1G7lw861n

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    4. Cap'n Transit‏ @capntransit Oct 4
      Replying to @380kmh @uncriticalsimon

      Again, that's a limitation on your imagination, not on physics. No government in the world is pro-rail enough to build a freight distribution system without any trucks.

      2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
    5. Simon‏ @uncriticalsimon Oct 4
      Replying to @capntransit @380kmh

      Heck, even when *everything* went by train, there were still some sort of trucks for delivery in town.

      1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
    6. Cap'n Transit‏ @capntransit Oct 4
      Replying to @uncriticalsimon @380kmh

      Horse-drawn wagons, sure. And wheelbarrows, and hand carts. Can we imagine a way to distribute freight that is safer than horse-drawn wagons?

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    7. Haunted Forrest  🌲‏ @380kmh Oct 4
      Replying to @capntransit @uncriticalsimon

      Wheelbarrows and hand carts, probably. Are trucks safer than horse-drawn wagons?

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    8. Cap'n Transit‏ @capntransit Oct 4
      Replying to @380kmh @uncriticalsimon

      Trucks go faster. Horses are generally pretty good at not running directly into walls.

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    9. Haunted Forrest  🌲‏ @380kmh Oct 4
      Replying to @capntransit @uncriticalsimon

      Right, so horse-drawn wagons are probably safer than trucks (and human-powered might be even safer, idk). Therefore if we're not still using horses for most freight, there must be more to logistics than safety.

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    10. Cap'n Transit‏ @capntransit Oct 4
      Replying to @380kmh @uncriticalsimon

      Right, the logistics world is full of assholes who put more priority on moving their piece of shit from one place to another than some child's life. That's no way to do logistics.https://capntransit.blogspot.com/2013/12/the-safety-culture-of-northern-boulevard.html …

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      Haunted Forrest  🌲‏ @380kmh Oct 4
      Replying to @capntransit @uncriticalsimon

      lmao how are you gonna call this a problem with the logistics industry and not with our road design standards--how many more people get hit by cars?

      10:42 AM - 4 Oct 2018
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        2. Cap'n Transit‏ @capntransit Oct 4
          Replying to @380kmh @uncriticalsimon

          You know, it's possible for something to be caused by a combination of multiple factors...

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        3. Haunted Forrest  🌲‏ @380kmh Oct 4
          Replying to @capntransit @uncriticalsimon

          yeah, exactly--which is why I'm baffled by your obsession with trucks as a primary factor (again re: Japan--higher truck mode share but much safer streets!)

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        4. Cap'n Transit‏ @capntransit Oct 4
          Replying to @380kmh @uncriticalsimon

          Did you ever get around to reading the first post I linked?

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        5. Haunted Forrest  🌲‏ @380kmh Oct 4
          Replying to @capntransit @uncriticalsimon

          Haunted Forrest  🌲 Retweeted Haunted Forrest  🌲

          You mean "No More Freight Hostages," right? Yes; the difference is I don't at all expect we can (or should) eliminate cars entirely from the transportation picture. They offer concrete advantages for people, which goes back to this point:https://twitter.com/380kmh/status/1047904567327903744 …

          Haunted Forrest  🌲 added,

          Haunted Forrest  🌲 @380kmh
          Replying to @capntransit @uncriticalsimon
          Usually when people think everyone in the world is doing something stupid for decades or centuries, they're not accurately assessing the alternatives. But again, if you have ideas for getting more of our truck freight into trains, I'm all ears.
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