I am very much in favor of scaling parking/speeding/etc tickets by income like they do in Finland so wealthy drivers take a greater hit, and lower-income drivers don’t have to face financial ruin
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Replying to @drooliet
not sure if speeding/parking tickets are the right place to apply this, but this is why I'm generally in favor of corporal punishment over fines (which give the rich a free pass) or detention (can't get that time back, and very hard to adjust back into society upon release)
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Replying to @380kmh
Hm, I’m thinking maybe something a little more constructive like community service? Or maybe temporary license suspensions, depending on the frequency/severity of the infraction?
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Like I know license suspensions are already used in more extreme cases, but maybe having those instead of fines would be a more effective slap-on-the-wrist?
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Replying to @drooliet
If the duration of the suspension isn't too long, that would be a good call--the problem with suspensions is that it can very quickly cost you your job if you can't drive and don't have reliable backups
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I think there are people for whom at some point society should say, "hey, looks like you can't handle owning/operating a car; let's figure out where you can live where you don't need one, even if that's pretty disruptive to your current lifestyle". Beats jail or killing somebody.
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Replying to @dmtrubman @drooliet
I agree that there's a point at which society should be able to say "hey, you really shouldn't be driving, and we won't allow you to" but w/o changes in our built environment that's tantamount to condemning someone to poverty--relocation has too many variables to be an option
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Obviously we need to change our build environment. But even today there are neighborhoods where one can live without a car; though not in every metro or even state. And not opposed to relocation coming with subsidies. Still cheaper than inevitable crash and/or jail.
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Replying to @dmtrubman @drooliet
there are such neighborhoods--but what are you supposed to do about people who's jobs can't follow them? what if they have people they're looking after where they live--or perhaps not where they live, but still inaccessible w/o a car?
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This is sort of close to home, btw--I've had a DUI in the past and let me tell you, it was very difficult to make it to the various court-ordered classes *and* my job by relying solely on the existing bus network (and this is as a guy who's a huge nerd and knows every route!)
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Even if it's theoretically possible, the sheer amount of time it takes--so much more than driving--can make it impractical
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