can never quite be as enthusiastic about bike advocacy as I would like because in the USA it's mainly about "what if we all had personal vehicles and wide roads...but like, smaller"pic.twitter.com/dp8E3MDIN4
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My fucking kingdom for transport infrastructure that hasn't been over-engineered into oblivion
Once again I gotta reference this one:https://twitter.com/380kmh/status/1022575808957833219 …
Aside from major arterials, your streets don't need to be very wide--the wider they are, the more spread out things necessarily become, and the less practical it is to walk or bike *even with sidewalks and bike lanes.* If your plan for bike/ped infra means widening every road...
They do if you have cars all over the place.
Think you mean: if the roads are overengineered, encouraging cars to drive recklessly Presence of cars alone is no obstacle to biking! Get the road right, and you can mix modes on it w/o issuepic.twitter.com/kFDrjSMlKH
Sure. I have no problem with shared streets but given our standard street designs are suited for 40 MPH traffic roads become human-free zones.
Right! I didn't expect you would have a problem with shared streets or anything--my problem with bike lanes is they are generally "giving in" to the 40mph traffic design, instead of fighting it
We need to get serious about calming traffic, narrowing streets, and making shared traffic possible--rigid segregation by mode, with 5 feet here for peds, 5 here for bikes, 10 here for cars, 10 here for buses, repeat on the other side, only makes that goal harder to achieve
those two are not exclusively different means of achieving the same goal. in fact, context-sensitive designs are often going to result in different street designs for different contexts.
Yes, mode segregation is pretty much necessary for major arterials (2+ car lanes in each direction as a rough definition), but the bulk of roads (including the leading pic in thread) don't fit that description
Once you hit a design speed above 25 mph and/or volumes of greater than 1,000 daily vehicles, people prefer separation like the original photo for sustainable safety efforts.
Bikers in my area are the worst. They want the dedicated space of cars but they also want to be pedestrians when it suits - going on pavement, ignoring traffic signs, lights, etc.
It's like they go out of their way to make their position personally odious. Even tho I support biking on principle, esp as urban alternative. Annoying!
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