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    Haunted Forrest  🌲‏ @380kmh Sep 6

    Regarding those quote tweets: I too am annoyed by Americans gushing over "european" trains, for two reasons--firstly that Japanese trains are obviously the gold standard, and secondly that it varies a lot by country! Talk about Swiss trains, not "european" ones

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      2. Market Urbanism‏ @MarketUrbanism Sep 6
        Replying to @380kmh

        Japan has superior HSR and main line rail, but Europe has better subways (lower tunneling costs and more automation) and surface transit

        3 replies 1 retweet 5 likes
      3. Market Urbanism‏ @MarketUrbanism Sep 6
        Replying to @MarketUrbanism @380kmh

        And I’d argue the Swiss and Germans are no longer in the forefront of European transit. Romance language-speaking countries are the ones that lead with low costs and automation

        1 reply 1 retweet 6 likes
      4. Sandy Johnston‏ @sandypsj Sep 6
        Replying to @MarketUrbanism @380kmh

        Paul Mees made a compelling argument that the only way transit can succeed in a sprawly country like the US or Australia is to adopt the Swiss/German takt approach to scheduling and very exacting performance standards.

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      2. Spooky Anglo‏ @AngloAntiracist Sep 7
        Replying to @380kmh

        If anyone believes this they should experience the change that occurs when you cross France to Germany. Whew.

        1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
      3. Spooky Anglo‏ @AngloAntiracist Sep 7
        Replying to @AngloAntiracist @380kmh

        Love French trains but German commitment to timeliness was something to see.

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      2. Jeremy Biggins  🔥‏ @AGileSilver Sep 6
        Replying to @380kmh

        Norweigan train rocking side to side made me nauseus. Italian train toilet went straight to tracks!

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      3. Jacopo Boeri‏ @Jacopobleah Sep 6
        Replying to @AGileSilver @380kmh

        Second one is very uncommon these days tbh, mostly in certain regions or secondary lines

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      4. Jeremy Biggins  🔥‏ @AGileSilver Sep 7
        Replying to @Jacopobleah @380kmh

        It was the line from Niece to Milan - 1st intro to Italia! Train from Milan to Como was better.

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      5. Jacopo Boeri‏ @Jacopobleah Sep 7
        Replying to @AGileSilver @380kmh

        How long ago? Curiosity, I take that train very often

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      6. Jeremy Biggins  🔥‏ @AGileSilver Sep 7
        Replying to @Jacopobleah @380kmh

        2013

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      7. Jacopo Boeri‏ @Jacopobleah Sep 7
        Replying to @AGileSilver @380kmh

        So, yeah, at that time the train was pretty terrible but also French eheh The company (Thello) has been absorbed by Trenitalia only recently, and they changed the trains. Same thing for the Venice - Paris line. Both so-so lines but slowly improving.

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      1. Jacopo Boeri‏ @Jacopobleah Sep 6
        Replying to @380kmh

        Might add that even inside the same country you can have big differences. In Italy HSR is privatised (and very good) and the regional trains are funded and provided by the regional governments, so Campania is very different from Lombardia, etc

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      1. Axios‏ @AxionMom Sep 7
        Replying to @380kmh

        it's true. been on swiss trains and italian trains. easy to see, feel, smell the difference.

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      1. petty bourgeois protestant‏ @samhydegger Sep 6
        Replying to @380kmh

        I don’t have much experience in this area, but this is what I experienced with “European trains,” as well, e.g. huge difference between Italian and German trains

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      1. Dedicating Ruckus‏ @ded_ruckus Sep 6
        Replying to @380kmh

        My one experience with Swiss trains, it was ~50min late and had no AC for all the ~2hr trip in 95-degree weather (though the two other legs on that trip were fine, and everything in Germany and France also fine; willing to believe it was an outlier)

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      1. Trent Waddington‏ @QuantumG Sep 6
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        gold standardhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IwVeORvtkb0 …

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