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    1. Haunted Forrest  🌲‏ @380kmh Aug 21

      "It is hoped it will reduce traffic on I-91" Look, when you make a train that's supposed to benefit drivers...you usually make a bad train:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZVHvkrmsX6s …

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    2. Haunted Forrest  🌲‏ @380kmh Aug 21

      You can see the results in the infrequent timetable (11 trips a day? c'mon now) and the dismal acceleration (for the duration of this video the train never gets above the speed of the cars on the adjacent highway) How is that supposed to take traffic off the highway exactly?

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    3. Haunted Forrest  🌲‏ @380kmh Aug 21

      I talk about induced demand a lot, and about why you should be wary in general of schemes which act like there's a finite and fixed amount of travel demand that can be easily shifted around from one mode to another...but let's ignore induced demand for a moment...

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      Haunted Forrest  🌲‏ @380kmh Aug 21

      For a train service to be drawing people away from the highway, it has to be providing a better service than the highway does. For the Hartford Line, that means frequent departures (5/hour or more) and high speeds: the average wait + travel times should be less than driving time

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        2. Haunted Forrest  🌲‏ @380kmh Aug 21

          If you achieve this; if you make the train a clearly superior choice--and if, as I said, induced demand didn't exist--then anyone who had the option would take the train instead of driving, and traffic on I-91 would drop. They won't do that for an inferior choice!

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        3. Haunted Forrest  🌲‏ @380kmh Aug 21

          Now, the thing about induced demand is that *even if* you build the railway to be a competitive--or superior--option, the people who switch from driving to riding would be quickly replaced on I-91 by people who previously avoided it because of its traffic!

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        4. Haunted Forrest  🌲‏ @380kmh Aug 21

          That's the thing about "superior options;" superior for what trips? I've talked so far as though I-91 is always the best option and as though the train is the only other one--but there are tons of other roads in the area, and no one road is universally the most convenient.

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        5. Haunted Forrest  🌲‏ @380kmh Aug 21

          So, to wrap up: 1) if you reduce traffic on I-91, you increase the overall convenience of that road, and people who previously avoided it will start using it (unless there is some other better option still out there for them), negating the traffic reduction.

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        6. Haunted Forrest  🌲‏ @380kmh Aug 21

          2) for the train to even have an effect on traffic on I-91, it has to provide a much better service than is currently available--it has to be the most convenient option for any person who you expect to make the switch! this has been a #TrainTwitter announcement

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