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    1. Haunted Forrest  🌲‏ @380kmh Aug 20

      Uber is losing up to $200m every quarter on its driverless car business--to say nothing of their other losses:https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/19/technology/uber-self-driving-cars.html …

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    2. Haunted Forrest  🌲‏ @380kmh Aug 20

      Uber's business model, from what I've heard, has been "get people hooked on cheap taxi-like travel while losing money, then switch to driverless cars so we can stop paying drivers and finally make money." What if there's a better way to run this business?

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      Haunted Forrest  🌲‏ @380kmh Aug 20

      Uber's initial advantage was being able to charge much less than conventional taxis for a comparable ride. The gap between their rates and taxi rates is pretty big, though, and there's room to charge a lot more than they do today while still being cheaper than old taxis...

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        2. Haunted Forrest  🌲‏ @380kmh Aug 20

          So, hear me out: what if the driverless car aspect never works out? Uber can either stick with its old plan and go under, or they can charge rates that actually pay for the cost of providing service, while still being cheaper than taxis (and with a more widely available fleet!)

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        3. Haunted Forrest  🌲‏ @380kmh Aug 20

          This would work out better for the drivers, better for the investors, and while it'd be an imposition for the riders, it would probably go over better than losing Uber entirely.

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        2. Patrick Brennan‏Verified account @ptbrennan11 Aug 20
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          The size of this gap varies significantly by city, I think. To me it has always seemed very small to non-existent in N.Y.; big in Boston; medium sized in D.C.

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        3. Haunted Forrest  🌲‏ @380kmh Aug 20
          Replying to @ptbrennan11

          interesting--here in Western MA, the difference is striking: a ride home from the bar is down to $7 instead of $11, a ride to the next town is down from $30 to $11~15, and a ride to the nearest city is down from $70~80 to $25~30

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        1. Haunted Forrest  🌲‏ @380kmh Aug 20
          Replying to @freakpower_

          can you elaborate a bit here

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        2. FM‏ @Ftuuky Aug 20
          Replying to @380kmh

          They were/are able to charge less than taxis because VCs are subsidizing all those cheap rides. Once the money runs out it's ggwp.

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        3. Haunted Forrest  🌲‏ @380kmh Aug 20
          Replying to @Ftuuky

          this would be true if taxi fares didn't have any bogus cost that could be attributed to rent seeking from their privileged licensing position

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        4. FM‏ @Ftuuky Aug 20
          Replying to @380kmh

          Sure, agree with you there. But there has to be an alternative between taxis and uber. some sort of decentralised network of car owners carpooling, idk.

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