I know I sound touchy and a bit hysterical on this subject--please bear with me, I take threats to my life pretty seriously, and this one tops the list
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Replying to @380kmh
My only issue when you go on these rants is the excuses you make for everyone not in a car.
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Replying to @skirtsnhose
Ya they kind of lack any capacity to kill thru their carelessness, unlike drivers
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Replying to @skirtsnhose
Cool, let's see those fatality lists for people hit by bicycles
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Replying to @380kmh
Cyclist runs a red light and a car hits him because the driver couldn't stop in time. According to you, that's the driver's fault.
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Replying to @skirtsnhose
You illiterate? I'm saying that the cyclist can't kill the driver, not that his carelessness can't get him killed
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Replying to @380kmh
Come on, man. You completely ignore second-order effects of their carelessness that can get others (not just them) killed.
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Replying to @skirtsnhose
You know bloody well that the risks they pose are trivial compared to the risks cars pose, there's no equivalence here
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Replying to @380kmh
The issue isn't "equivalence"; it's your giving a total pass to the carelessness of anyone not in a car.
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It's not a total pass, it's that +90% of the people who could save lives by paying better attention are drivers, and if we're asking people to pay more attention, +90% of those people should be drivers
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Replying to @380kmh
I agree with that; that is not at all how you present the issue up above, or when you normally talk about it. Hence this subthread.
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