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    1. planefag‏ @planefag Jun 5
      Replying to @Chiakipus @InvernessMoon and

      Long-distance passenger rail doesn't work in the US. We know it doesn't because we used to have it and when the horseless carriage was invented it fucking murdered it with great efficiency. But urban light rail? Well...

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    2. planefag‏ @planefag Jun 5
      Replying to @planefag @Chiakipus and

      ... the incompetence is so fucking thick and fast with all the municipalities who've attempted it that I honestly can't tell if it's simply unworkable in our cities as built, or if incompetents have just fucked it up at every single goddamned turn, it's that big a mess.

      1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
    3. afai sfhjnkn‏ @poiThePoi Jun 5
      Replying to @planefag @Chiakipus and

      Little bit of both. In Detroit, retrofitting mass transit onto the mile roads can never happen because of the 10-15 minute walks to the mile roads, and there aren't half-mile infills. However... best practices exist for a reason, and we don't do any of that.

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    4. afai sfhjnkn‏ @poiThePoi Jun 5
      Replying to @poiThePoi @planefag and

      The basic problem is that transportation is a 3-way tradeoff between: * Speed * Distance between stops * Capacity. Roads get a 7 on the speed, a 10 on the stops, and a 2 on the capacity.

      1 reply 0 retweets 3 likes
    5. afai sfhjnkn‏ @poiThePoi Jun 5
      Replying to @poiThePoi @planefag and

      Urban transit done right is 3, 7, 10. Suburban transit done well is 5, 5, 4. Inter-city transit is 8, 1, 3 by design. And since everything is slow and also MUST carry a ton of people, that requires density (which then let you have lower headways) and short distances.

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    6. Haunted Forrest  🌲‏ @380kmh Jun 5
      Replying to @poiThePoi @planefag and

      curious: what is your experience with urban, suburban, and intercity transit "done right"

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    7. afai sfhjnkn‏ @poiThePoi Jun 5
      Replying to @380kmh @planefag and

      Urban: Market Street BART and NYC subway on their good days. There's a subway stop every 8 blocks, which unfortunately stops the train, so they don't make much forward progress, but I'm also not walking all that much, and the trains are every 5-10 at worst.

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    8. afai sfhjnkn‏ @poiThePoi Jun 5
      Replying to @poiThePoi @380kmh and

      Suburban: Caltrain at express stops (6 TPH), suburban BART, working NJT, that one Metro-North train I took. Moderate capacity (800 per train is standard), 4-6 TPH at any given stop, probably 35 MPH on the locals, 50-70 on the express.

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    9. afai sfhjnkn‏ @poiThePoi Jun 5
      Replying to @poiThePoi @380kmh and

      Unfortunately, because of the gaps, you either do TOD where your destination *is* the stop, or you Uber or hit useless suburban bus systems when you get off the trains. And they have an annoying habit of doing 1 TPH on weekends, which I get, but also shoot me now.

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    10. Haunted Forrest  🌲‏ @380kmh Jun 5
      Replying to @poiThePoi @planefag and

      >1 tph kill me

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      Haunted Forrest  🌲‏ @380kmh Jun 5
      Replying to @380kmh @poiThePoi and

      but ok I mainly wanted to see if you had any experience w non-USA trains

      12:16 PM - 5 Jun 2018
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        2. afai sfhjnkn‏ @poiThePoi Jun 5
          Replying to @380kmh @planefag and

          Paris to CDG, a complete disgust at Ireland's system since the entire country shuts down on Sunday and dropping the rental car is really hard (and I had to do it anyways). I'm looking forwards to Japan and Germany in 2019. Chiba to Narita in 2 hours.

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        3. Haunted Forrest  🌲‏ @380kmh Jun 5
          Replying to @poiThePoi @planefag and

          good luck! hope you have a marvelous trip, I am intending to get out to Japan again this fall

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