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    1. Haunted Forrest  🌲‏ @380kmh Jun 5
      Replying to @Chiakipus @poiThePoi

      the rail unions were violent saboteurs during the 70s when threatened with downsizing, it took a very careful and dedicated effort by management to bring them to heel

      1 reply 0 retweets 3 likes
    2. Hollow Man‏ @HollowFestival Jun 5
      Replying to @planefag @380kmh and

      But its not like the Japanese model can't be applied area-by-area. No one's asking you to connect Austin to NYC but Houston roads look like this and there's still not one commuter railpic.twitter.com/GcgXOF6hW7

      2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
    3. Inverness‏ @InvernessMoon Jun 5
      Replying to @HollowFestival @planefag and

      Houston roads may be bad sometimes but you're using a misleading picture from a past hurricane evacuation.

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    4. Chiaki Matsuda‏ @Chiakipus Jun 5
      Replying to @InvernessMoon @planefag and

      …something also easier with trains running emergency schedule?

      3 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
    5. planefag‏ @planefag Jun 5
      Replying to @Chiakipus @InvernessMoon and

      Long-distance passenger rail doesn't work in the US. We know it doesn't because we used to have it and when the horseless carriage was invented it fucking murdered it with great efficiency. But urban light rail? Well...

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    6. planefag‏ @planefag Jun 5
      Replying to @planefag @Chiakipus and

      ... the incompetence is so fucking thick and fast with all the municipalities who've attempted it that I honestly can't tell if it's simply unworkable in our cities as built, or if incompetents have just fucked it up at every single goddamned turn, it's that big a mess.

      1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
    7. afai sfhjnkn‏ @poiThePoi Jun 5
      Replying to @planefag @Chiakipus and

      Little bit of both. In Detroit, retrofitting mass transit onto the mile roads can never happen because of the 10-15 minute walks to the mile roads, and there aren't half-mile infills. However... best practices exist for a reason, and we don't do any of that.

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    8. afai sfhjnkn‏ @poiThePoi Jun 5
      Replying to @poiThePoi @planefag and

      The basic problem is that transportation is a 3-way tradeoff between: * Speed * Distance between stops * Capacity. Roads get a 7 on the speed, a 10 on the stops, and a 2 on the capacity.

      1 reply 0 retweets 3 likes
    9. afai sfhjnkn‏ @poiThePoi Jun 5
      Replying to @poiThePoi @planefag and

      Urban transit done right is 3, 7, 10. Suburban transit done well is 5, 5, 4. Inter-city transit is 8, 1, 3 by design. And since everything is slow and also MUST carry a ton of people, that requires density (which then let you have lower headways) and short distances.

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      Haunted Forrest  🌲‏ @380kmh Jun 5
      Replying to @poiThePoi @planefag and

      curious: what is your experience with urban, suburban, and intercity transit "done right"

      12:01 PM - 5 Jun 2018
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        2. afai sfhjnkn‏ @poiThePoi Jun 5
          Replying to @380kmh @planefag and

          Urban: Market Street BART and NYC subway on their good days. There's a subway stop every 8 blocks, which unfortunately stops the train, so they don't make much forward progress, but I'm also not walking all that much, and the trains are every 5-10 at worst.

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        3. Haunted Forrest  🌲‏ @380kmh Jun 5
          Replying to @poiThePoi @planefag and

          ngl that kind of stop spacing is a bit too close imo, half-mile minimum is a good rule of thumb

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        4. afai sfhjnkn‏ @poiThePoi Jun 5
          Replying to @380kmh @planefag and

          In Manhattan, they're every 4, but then the express is every 25, so...

          1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
        5. Haunted Forrest  🌲‏ @380kmh Jun 5
          Replying to @poiThePoi @planefag and

          right, but even where the stop spacing is adequate, you still want to have local/express variations in service

          1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
        6. afai sfhjnkn‏ @poiThePoi Jun 5
          Replying to @380kmh @planefag and

          Of course, that requires digging 4 tunnels, which is really expensive unless you're doing cut-and-cover and also requires a rather wide right-of-way.

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        7. Haunted Forrest  🌲‏ @380kmh Jun 5
          Replying to @poiThePoi @planefag and

          you can run four tracks in a single tunnel if you're so inclined, and there's no rule stipulating that such a thing must be underground, but more to the point: you can run high frequency express and local service variants on a two-track line if a few stations on it have 4 tracks

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        8. Haunted Forrest  🌲‏ @380kmh Jun 5
          Replying to @380kmh @poiThePoi and

          heck, the stations part is optional if the overall line isn't too long

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        9. afai sfhjnkn‏ @poiThePoi Jun 5
          Replying to @380kmh @planefag and

          That's basically called Caltrain and that exact service pattern coupled with the state banning level boarding for wheelchairs was why I had a 52 minute gap between trains in the mornings.

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
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