Singularity Utopia on Twitter: "@alephbass @jstogdill wonder how you'd mange loading Twitter and Tweeting on phone in 1984? Desktops are better too. http://t.co/sX2qpVKDQL"

Ari Gesher ‏@alephbass Feb 9

@2045singularity @jstogdill singularity and the tech it entails is a discontinuity and very difficult to plan past or argue with;
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Jim Stogdill ‏@jstogdill Feb 9

@alephbass @2045singularity But with or w/o a singularity, the future has always been difficult to predict. :)
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Singularity Utopia ‏@2045singularity Feb 9

@jstogdill @alephbass we have much more evidence now thus predictions can be accurate. Look at cost of mobiles 1986-2014, $3.7K versus $8.
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Singularity Utopia ‏@2045singularity Feb 9

@jstogdill @alephbass hard drives show similar increase in performance and decrease in costs. Moore's Law has been accurate.
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Ari Gesher ‏@alephbass Feb 9

@2045singularity @jstogdill yes, yes - do you think we’re not aware of this? Predicting the when and what of AGI is still fraught.
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Singularity Utopia ‏@2045singularity Feb 9

@alephbass @jstogdill even if we didn't invent AGI and current tech is merely refined, similar to technology history, this would be enough.
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Ari Gesher ‏@alephbass Feb 9

@2045singularity @jstogdill without AGI to take control of the world, politics are a very confounding factor. Who loses and are they armed?
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Singularity Utopia ‏@2045singularity Feb 9

@alephbass @jstogdill politics is scarcity-regulation, tech will erode scarcity w/o AGI, we will see more Swiss #basicincome, less conflict.
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Jim Stogdill ‏@jstogdill Feb 9

@2045singularity @alephbass Are you familiar with the 2nd Law of Thermodynamics. It's compelling.
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Singularity Utopia ‏@2045singularity Feb 9

@jstogdill @alephbass but locally it doesn't need to apply thus humans have progressed, we are mastering matter, order increases locally.
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Ari Gesher ‏@alephbass Feb 9

@2045singularity @jstogdill there are limits and they are fundamental. See CPU speed slowdown due to quantum-level effects.
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Singularity Utopia ‏@2045singularity Feb 9

@alephbass @jstogdill many previously predicted approach of limits, but we found ways to increase. Anyway, 30 years at 2014-level = utopia.
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Singularity Utopia ‏@2045singularity Feb 9

@alephbass @jstogdill think about how much better 2014 tech is than 30 years ago.30 years of invention with 2014 tech would be sufficient.
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Ari Gesher ‏@alephbass Feb 9

@2045singularity @jstogdill not really much better, actually. Different? Yes, certainly. Better? No. More productive and profitable, sure.
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@alephbass @jstogdill wonder how you'd mange loading Twitter and Tweeting on phone in 1984? Desktops are better too. http://www.extremetech.com/computing/175289-the-macintosh-is-30-years-old-today-how-apple-changed-the-desktop-computing-world …

Ari Gesher ‏@alephbass Feb 9

@2045singularity @jstogdill tech has improved. Effect on the world for the better is not as clear.
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Ari Gesher ‏@alephbass Feb 9

@2045singularity @jstogdill I know all the ways in which tech has changed (and about things that are not public yet). I still disagree.
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Singularity Utopia ‏@2045singularity Feb 9

@alephbass @jstogdill just so you can see how far we've come in 27 years: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2522647/Apple-Mac-Plus-5-years-web-launch-connects-internet.html … "Sure, it was slow as hell, but it worked!"
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Singularity Utopia ‏@2045singularity Feb 9

@alephbass @jstogdill times are changing (WikiLeaks-Snowden, power-shift). Ease of communication ($8 phone, cheap inherent access) is good.
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Singularity Utopia ‏@2045singularity Feb 9

@alephbass @jstogdill we do however have way to go before tech-positivity is really felt. We're in transition, future can appear unclear.
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