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Harris asked whether Biden supports the Green New Deal, since Biden seems to change his answer depending on who's listening She opens by swearing Biden will NOT ban fracking He will not increase taxes for anyone making less than 400k a year He will create more jobs
Harris points out that the Trump administration removed both the word "science" and the phrase "climate change" from various government documents "Joe has a plan," she says. Calls climate change an existential threat
Pence asked whether climate change is an existential threat "Climate is changing," he says. "We'll follow the science" Then he's off about taxes and the economy and fracking again
Harris talking about the trade war in China and I thought this was the climate change section but who can really know anything anymore where's my beer
Pence: "We lost the trade war with china?! Biden never fought it!" Repeats the "you aren't entitled to your own facts" line: clearly hoping that'll be the quote of the night
Pence asked about foreign policy He denounces NAFTA and says some other stuff that I'm having a real hard time caring about
Oh cool now he's talking about Trump "standing up to China" in the wake of "Joe Biden's cheerleading for China." Really riding that thing where closing the border to China saved lives. Describes COVID as something China did to us. Cool
Kamela Harris taking us back to jobs lost in Trump's failed trade war She claims more people approve of Xi Jinping than Trump which is a good burn I guess
Joe likes to tell Kamela that foreign policy isn't hard, it's all about relationships
Kamlea rightly criticizing Trump's decision to pull he out of the Iranian nuclear deal and thus made Americans more unsafe When she's right she's right
Pence instantly responds by you thing Trump's endorsement of moving the Israeli capital to Jerusalem Now he's talking about how Trump "unleashed the military" to destroy ISIS
I think Pence just said that Trump could have prevented ISIS deaths ubder the Obama administration Pence goes over time by at least 30 seconds and the moderator says something passive aggressive about it and I'm sure that really showed Pence oh boy you really roasted him
Pence bringing up Trump's disrespect of the veterans--im sorry, "the men who are serving America" *Screams in female vet*
Omg now she's talking about the bounties on American soldiers' heads by Russia and I have never cared less about anything
Pence straight bullies the moderator into letting him respond in defiance of the rules, it's incredible It gives me no pleasure to say this but if I'd come to this debate a sexist I would leave with every single one of my preconceptions painfully intact thanks to this moderator
Pence asked about abortion Of course he decides to use his time to talk about literally anything else In this case, the death of Suleimani one million years ago in January. Remember when we thought we were going to war with Iran? Pence doesn't know why Harris opposed his death
Then he talks about the SC nominee Says he hopes he doesn't see "attacks against her Christian faith" like they have done in the past My mouth is fucking open (I mean I guess "Christian faith" is code for "violating women's rights)
Harris takes the bait Says her and Biden are people of deep faith and they would NEVER knock a SC nominee for her faith By doing this she agrees to fight on Pence's terms Won't someone please kill me I long for the sweet release of death
Kamela defends a woman's right to choose and then pivots back to COVID and I need you to know how hard it is for me to care about any of this
@hungrybowtie has just pulled a copy of The Fountainhead off my bookcase because "it's more entertaining"
Pence claims Harris supports "taxpayer -funded abortion up to the moment of birth" How do we feel about super late-term abortions? Like, 61 years after birth?
Pence asks Harris about packing the court, Harris refuses to give a straight answer
"I just want to state for the record that she never answered the question," Pence says as the moderator loves on to racial justice and it really pains me to agree with this cardboard hitman
Harris asked if justice was done in the Breonna Taylor case Harris says no. Talks about what a great person Taylor was and I'd like to point out that even if she'd been the worst person in the world she wouldn't have deserved to be murdered
She pivots to George Floyd. Declares her support for peaceful protests, decries violence She declares that reform is necessary and declares intent to ban choke holds...like that'll stop the bastards
Harris goes on to say she'll eliminate private prisons and decriminalize marijuana I want to believe
Pence says he's super sad about Taylor but "I trust the Justice center" and the grand jury verdict He pivots as quickly as possible to the "rioting and looting" in the wake of police murder, which is the real problem as we all know
Pence wants law enforcement to know that "president Trump and I stand with you" They know. That's why they're you're private army you fucking jackel
Harris brings up Trump's message to the Proud Boys to "stand back and stand by," reminds the audience of his words on Mexicans ("rapists and criminals") and on Charlottesville ("very fine people on both sides") Good
Pence reminds us that Trump has Jewish grandchildren and then attacks Harris' prosecutorial record
Meanwhile @hungrybowtie has buried himself under my truly horrifying collection of Objectivist literature do not fucking judge me I swear to Godpic.twitter.com/Sc9grnMgHM
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