I see your point here. And honestly as they continue to engage in action indistinguishable from white nationalist action, this might be right. I might be stuck 2 years ago with my logic
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Replying to @1misanthrophile @_macehualli
My hope is to be able to better reach people who will stop reading at the word "Nazi" but might continue reading if they see "far right" and then learn about the bad shit these groups do and the bad ways of thinking they teach We may be past that, I acknowledge
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Replying to @1misanthrophile
I understand. I think we are at apoint where we need to educate folks on the brownshirts, because PB is aware and using the tactics and teaching other groups how to use them. I get even neonazi as a term elicits eye rolls. They need to be identified as antidemocracy paramilitary.
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Replying to @_macehualli @1misanthrophile
They seek to upset the democratic process and use their clubs to insert fascist loyalitsts who are seemingly reasonable into official positions while villianizing BLM, Indigenous, and AF as a selling point to the people through the media.
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Replying to @_macehualli @1misanthrophile
The only way, imo, we get to heal as a nation is if we turn the public against all fascist speech so that we can get it's use outlawed. It's painful, to damage free speech this way, but it is necessary. It is the fascists that force democracy to make this sacrifice. We can heal.
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Replying to @_macehualli @1misanthrophile
It should be a hate crime to wear SS bolts all over a shirt. Literally a hate crime. Organizing under ethnonational and even national pretexts should be denied legal protection. How do we get there with people? Do we have to become a explicitly fascist nation first?
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Replying to @_macehualli @1misanthrophile
I'm not sure if I got offensive here by soapboxing. If I did I will do better in the future. I really do appreciate you and all the independents. I know there are things I am unaware u have to consider. Thank you for taking that risk today. Those folks are fucking dangerous.
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Replying to @_macehualli
Not at all, these are conversations that we have to be having. We spend so much time reacting to fascists: the question of how we win against fascism is one we need to spend more time on (also it happens to be one of my favorite things to talk about)
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Replying to @1misanthrophile @_macehualli
I'm not against banning fascist speech but to me the thing that concerns me is fascist modes of thinking. I have this theory that fascism is actually an ideological virus--it destroys the victim's capacity to understand truth and morality
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Replying to @1misanthrophile @_macehualli
Truth becomes a weapon in the eternal struggle for supremacy. The only moral good is winning. The only absolute is "I'm right." I think we're seeing the results of this disease right now
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(I know this really undermines my argument about the PBs being alt-lite earlier; the problem is fascism is everywhere. We're an infected society) I don't know how we fight back against the virus, but we have to figure it out...
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Replying to @1misanthrophile
We have to defend our communities from hate groups. As with any virus.. Otherwise some of them just need the opportunity to leave it behind. It is something they have to help each other with. This org is founded by former members of hate groups.https://www.lifeafterhate.org/our-impact
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