Hi there, coming at you deep undercover from the Trump Caravan. Thread incoming The caravan is about to move from Oregon City up IT towards Multnomah. At an undisclosed point, law enforcement will facilitate a turnaround for those going to the All Lives Matter rally in Salem
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Replying to @1misanthrophile
We need to start calling them what they are: neonazi paramilitary. They are conducting a state sponsored Neonazi Paramilitary Parade. It is an act in the practice of terror and intimidation of the communities they target.
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Replying to @_macehualli
Without minimizing the extremely grave danger these chuds pose, there's a difference between these guys and neonazi paramilitary groups like Atomwaffen or The Base Less and less every day, mind you
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Replying to @1misanthrophile
I hear echoes of fash enabling neoliberal media in your reply. But, ok, I'll give you benefit of the doubt: What distinction do you draw between what we see in PB/ PP/ 3p/ and AW/TB?
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Replying to @_macehualli
What you hear is someone whose spent the last 2.5 years studying the different flavors of the American far right. This deserves a more extensive answer than I can type whole driving to Salem, I'll respond at length soon If it helps I think the PBs are probably the graver threat
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Replying to @1misanthrophile @_macehualli
Ok so before I launch into this: different does not mean better The big difference between say, Proud Boys and Atomwaffen, is that Atomwaffen is overtly white supremacist. No non-white people allowed. As in, expulsion (at best) of non-whites from America as explicit policy
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Replying to @1misanthrophile @_macehualli
We both know plenty of Proud Boys believe all of that shit. But they don't say it out loud. They accept non-white members. They talk about civic nationalism, not ethnonationalism These are dog whistles but the fact they use dog whistles at all is important. Plausible deniability
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Replying to @1misanthrophile @_macehualli
There are members and supporters of the Proud Boys who aren't neonazis. They're chuds and awful but don't believe in ethnonationalism--yet It's a pipeline in that direction, but a lot of them are at the beginning
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Replying to @1misanthrophile @_macehualli
So when we call Proud Boys neonazis you're gonna get low-level Proud Boys who can honestly say, hey, I'm not a neonazi. Then they say, you just think everyone is Nazis. Which, look, we're deep in semantics but it's a powerful rhetorical device for them
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so I'd rather just call them what they are: an alt lite group and a pipeline to way worse shit. Maybe this is just semantics, and I agree they're dangerous. More dangerous, because they appeal to more average regular people Either way they're dangerous as fuck
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