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    1. Laura Jedeed (Misanthrophile)‏ @1misanthrophile Mar 28
      Replying to @JeremyTheRhino

      Well, I think that if you say out loud what you're advocating it's pretty monstrous. But if relaxing the quarantine minimizes human suffering, you can easily prove me wrong by discussing how many people will die and/or suffer under the two methods

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    2. Laura Jedeed (Misanthrophile)‏ @1misanthrophile Mar 28
      Replying to @1misanthrophile @JeremyTheRhino

      My main point is that no one ever finishes the sentence, and I have a theory as to why but again, if I'm wrong, by all means explain it to me so I can be less wrong

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    3. Jeremy  🦏‏ @JeremyTheRhino Mar 28
      Replying to @1misanthrophile

      They are finishing the sentence though. I just finished the sentence, every argument I have seen finishes the sentence. I’m saying you’re deliberately misrepresenting the argument and I don’t know why. The end goal for both is minimizing human suffering. Neither is monstrous.

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    4. Laura Jedeed (Misanthrophile)‏ @1misanthrophile Mar 28
      Replying to @JeremyTheRhino

      So tell me how it does that. I am still waiting for specific predictions and comparisons between the two strategies.

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    5. Jeremy  🦏‏ @JeremyTheRhino Mar 28
      Replying to @1misanthrophile

      I have repeatedly said I am not advocating for any particular strategy. I’m not that kind of scientist. I have repeatedly said treating any other argument as monstrous is deliberately misrepresenting the point. I don’t know why you want to pin me to any other argument.

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    6. Jeremy  🦏‏ @JeremyTheRhino Mar 28
      Replying to @JeremyTheRhino @1misanthrophile

      You open with dark and ominous statements like “make them confront their nature” and “how many people they are advocating death for” and then pivot to “I just want to discuss.”

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    7. Laura Jedeed (Misanthrophile)‏ @1misanthrophile Mar 28
      Replying to @JeremyTheRhino

      Cool, I'm sorry you don't like my tone but hiding behind that to refuse to have the conversation of actual cost-benefit argument isn't exactly persuading me I was wrong to be angry at people advancing this argument right now

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    8. Laura Jedeed (Misanthrophile)‏ @1misanthrophile Mar 28
      Replying to @1misanthrophile @JeremyTheRhino

      "nature" was an aggressive and perhaps unfair word to use. How about "confront the thing they're actually advocating"?

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    9. Jeremy  🦏‏ @JeremyTheRhino Mar 28
      Replying to @1misanthrophile

      That’s certainly a friendlier tone. It would be fair to mention the severity of the life and death scale. I still think it’s a strawman. All serious arguments are about reducing the scale of the suffering.

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    10. Laura Jedeed (Misanthrophile)‏ @1misanthrophile Mar 28
      Replying to @JeremyTheRhino

      Yes, both sides are using those words and I think most of them even mean it. But one side is talking about numbers of people who will die based on epidemiologist assessments and the other side, as far as I have seen, is not

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      Laura Jedeed (Misanthrophile)‏ @1misanthrophile Mar 28
      Replying to @1misanthrophile @JeremyTheRhino

      I just want you to say it. I want everyone who thinks a relaxation makes sense to say it. Tell me how a quarantine relaxation for the sake of the economy will minimize human suffering when epidemiologists say it won't.

      11:11 AM - 28 Mar 2020
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        2. Laura Jedeed (Misanthrophile)‏ @1misanthrophile Mar 28
          Replying to @1misanthrophile @JeremyTheRhino

          Tell me how saving the economy will save more lives than letting it tank and avoiding 10% mortality rates like we're seeing in Italy We need specifics to have this conversation because the outcomes will be very fucking specific

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        3. Jeremy  🦏‏ @JeremyTheRhino Mar 28
          Replying to @1misanthrophile

          We could stop every motor vehicle death tomorrow if we got rid of every car. But as a society we don’t because we recognize that there are myriad benefits to having motor vehicles including often saving people’s lives. We all handle that calculus without this level of dialogue.

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