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    Charlie Miller‏ @0xcharlie 21 Jul 2015

    Also we reported this bug to Chrysler in October. Patch comes out 3 weeks before our talk. Public disclosure works.

    6:58 AM - 21 Jul 2015
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      2. Geoff Norton‏ @geoffnorton 21 Jul 2015
        Replying to @0xcharlie

        @0xcharlie If it took that long, why drop the vendor to media now? Drop it @_defcon_ ?

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      3. Charlie Miller‏ @0xcharlie 21 Jul 2015
        Replying to @geoffnorton

        @geoffnorton @_defcon_ to get people to patch before we release details at defcon.

        3 replies 0 retweets 1 like
      4. Geoff Norton‏ @geoffnorton 21 Jul 2015
        Replying to @0xcharlie

        @0xcharlie @_defcon_ If its not OTA, majority of car owners won't patch anyways.

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      2. Matt Graeber‏ @mattifestation 21 Jul 2015
        Replying to @0xcharlie

        @0xcharlie @obscuresec Is it an OTA patch, will a recall be issued, or none of the above?

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      3. Charlie Miller‏ @0xcharlie 21 Jul 2015
        Replying to @mattifestation

        @mattifestation @obscuresec none :(

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      4. Matt Graeber‏ @mattifestation 21 Jul 2015
        Replying to @0xcharlie

        @0xcharlie @obscuresec That's sad. That said, you have a personal responsibility to advocate a recall to media in that case. Please do.

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      5. Chris Campbell‏ @obscuresec 22 Jul 2015
        Replying to @mattifestation

        @mattifestation @0xcharlie Doesn't everyone with knowledge of the bugs existence have the same responsibility?

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      6. Matt Graeber‏ @mattifestation 22 Jul 2015
        Replying to @obscuresec

        @obscuresec @0xcharlie When publicizing your research with media flocking towards you, you have a unique opportunity to set a precedent.

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      1. DragonJAR‏ @DragonJAR 21 Jul 2015
        Replying to @0xcharlie

        @0xcharlie I reported in January 2014 to chevrolet, again in September 2014 with the help of @cesarcer & @nudehaberdasher still unresponsive

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      2. Karussell‏ @timetabling 21 Jul 2015
        Replying to @0xcharlie

        @0xcharlie Do you think that something like this was possible 6 years ago? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009%E2%80%9311_Toyota_vehicle_recalls …

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      3. Chris Barlow‏ @chrispbarlow 21 Jul 2015
        Replying to @timetabling

        @timetabling @0xcharlie The Toyota "unintended acceleration" issue was a safety software bug, not a security flaw http://betterembsw.blogspot.co.uk/2014/09/a-case-study-of-toyota-unintended.html …

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      1. Daniel Marsh‏ @Infoseepage 22 Jul 2015
        Replying to @0xcharlie

        @0xcharlie @hackerfriendly Maybe this leads to better engineering/laws down the road, but this puts Jeep drivers in danger in the near term.

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      1. Daniel Marsh‏ @Infoseepage 22 Jul 2015
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        @0xcharlie @hackerfriendly Only a minority of vehicles will ever be patched so this isn't a public disclosure leading to better security.

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      1. Fernando Montenegro‏ @fsmontenegro 21 Jul 2015
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        . @0xcharlie REALLY admire your research, but don’t you think tampering with vehicle speed in highway endangered other drivers?

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      1. Kevin Johnson‏ @secureideas 21 Jul 2015
        Replying to @0xcharlie

        @0xcharlie So your saying that they wouldn't patch until you were giving the talk? Or it took that long to patch?

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      1. Andrew Anderson‏ @andycapp92 21 Jul 2015
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        @0xcharlie - by 'patch' what are you referring to.... what does the process look like for the consumer?

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      1. frakintosh‏ @frakintosh 21 Jul 2015
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        @0xcharlie Hopefully instead of this mealymouthed “you should update your software” crap, they’ll treat it like a recall. They should.

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      1. George Sells‏Verified account @GeorgeSells 21 Jul 2015
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        @0xcharlie Could you follow me so I can DM you my number? Local reporter hoping to do more on your Wired piece. Thanks!

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      1. Alun Jones‏ @ftp_alun 21 Jul 2015
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        @0xcharlie @blowdart Public disclosure works sometimes... when private / coordinated disclosure fails.

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      1. not that other galen‏ @GalenRTFSL 21 Jul 2015
        Replying to @0xcharlie

        @0xcharlie Of course, it doesn't hurt to have the brand caché of @0xcharlie and @nudehaberdasher in order to get vendors' attention

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