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I understand the emotional appeal of nutpicking, but I encourage you to resist it.

I don’t think we are seeing this the same Erik. I’m not just looking at the Tweet. If I was you would have a fair point. I’m looking at over 20k likes on it after over 5k retweets. That makes it trickier. Also I have looked through a number of these accounts. This isn’t isolated.

“open borders, anti-whiteness, apologizing to homophobic/misogynist theocracies, worlds w/o men, reparations for slavery,” Virtually only times I see these ideas are when they are posted by right-wing outrage tweeters. The exception is open borders, by Libertarian Bryan Kaplan

This is so interesting! I meet this all the time. Endless discussions about Rawlsian veils. Emma Lazarus.

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? Etc. Everyone I know who has supported restricting immigration is called a xenophobe. How are we so far apart Erik? Here: google.com/amp/s/www.nyti

I missed that one. But one of the first things he says is it’s an idea almost no one in the mainstream will address. I guess that means it’s outside the mainstream. Is any major candidate calling for open borders? Isn’t it a fringe libertarian position or epithet of the right?

Now I’m lost. We are clearly sideways here. The right was in on this too calling for a constitutional amendment to open our borders to decimate US wages (although that’s not how they sold it): wsj.com/articles/SB994

The game was traditionally played by saying “now I’m not for open borders, but...” and then calls were made for Amnesty, family reunification, paths to citizenship, expansion of allotments, no deportation, defunding enforcement, etc. which is to say gutting all of the barriers.

Yes, there is a spectrum of views that fall short of open borders like paths to citizenship, Daca, etc. Most of those fall short of what Reagan pushed through in the 1980s. I don’t think it’s accurate to call those views “open borders”. Maybe that’s where my confusion comes.

And maybe I spent enough time in DC doing immigration listening to people say “We’re basically for open borders but of course we can’t just say that.”

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