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  1. Craig thanks both for coming, Destin for moderating, and us for watching. Kicks us out to prep for AVGN panel. SGC! WOOOOOO! 3:08 PM Jul 4th from web
  2. Thanks Jack for taking the time to get here, us for sitting in. Both thank Screwattack. Shake hands. Applause. 3:07 PM Jul 4th from web
  3. Mark praises our freedoms. Says we need to make up our own minds about issues. Keep our freedoms and not give it up to scapegoats. 3:06 PM Jul 4th from web
  4. Jack thanks us for listening, attending. Says how he was warned for ridicule @ SGC. Knew we'd be a good audience. Thanks Mark. Applause. 3:05 PM Jul 4th from web
  5. Mark asks if we have a problem with a parent knowingly giving GTA4 to their kid. JT agrees, morally. Closing comments. JT first. 3:03 PM Jul 4th from web
  6. JT says that story made him want to stop GTA. Urges to draw lines. Mark follows up. 3:02 PM Jul 4th from web
  7. JT brings up Ted Bundy's use of violent sexual material as his training manual. Warns that combo of sex/violence made him who he was. 3:01 PM Jul 4th from web
  8. Jack asks us who has a problem with a 14y/o hiring hookers in GTA4. Says there have to be lines. Said his problem is with kids, not adults. 3:00 PM Jul 4th from web
  9. Said books like Dante's Inferno and the Bible more violent than VGs. Line hasn't been crossed. 2:58 PM Jul 4th from web
  10. Mark doesn't think VGs are close to the level of violence in movies, eg Saw. 2:57 PM Jul 4th from web
  11. QUESTION: What level of violence is acceptable in video games. 2:56 PM Jul 4th from web
  12. Jack says VG companies influence kids' behaviors to get sales. Mark disagrees and says it's no worse than other media. 2:56 PM Jul 4th from web
  13. Mark says population det's pop culture popularity. Says Zelda can have same legacy as Homer's Odyssey if population wants it. 2:55 PM Jul 4th from web
  14. Mark says it takes us to stop media from being released. Pop culture based on consumers, not people who make it. 2:53 PM Jul 4th from web
  15. Jack comments about his disbarment. Said he'd do it again, regrets he didn't do enough. Says ppl w/ good will disagree w/ him. Our decision. 2:52 PM Jul 4th from web
  16. Agrees w/ H. Clinton's "It Takes A Village." Comments that Take2 says some games just shouldn't be made. 2:51 PM Jul 4th from web
  17. JT says it's not so easy, SGC is proof of that. Says we celebrate individual freedom/free enterprise more than other ppl. VG CEOs = bright. 2:50 PM Jul 4th from web
  18. QUESTION @ JT: Do you think violent VGs are just an easy/convenient scapegoat. 2:49 PM Jul 4th from web
  19. JT says liberty must be constrained by virtue and public morality. Says it's fine to disagree with him. Says July 4 best time to express it 2:48 PM Jul 4th from web
  20. Mark responds: US has strongest freedom of speech. Says attempting to ban a form of media would just not work. Says other media scapegoated 2:46 PM Jul 4th from web