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@ And frankly, using extremely rare late-term abortion as justification for the outlawing of ALL abortion is silly.
9:30 PM Nov 24th
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@ And in my mind, the rights of a thinking, feeling, absolutely-for-sure person trump the rights of an almost-person.
9:25 PM Nov 24th
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@ ...the interests of the mother with the interests of the fetus when they conflict.
9:24 PM Nov 24th
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@ I understand that an almost-full-term fetus is really close to personhood, but the reality is that it's hard to balance...
9:24 PM Nov 24th
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@ The vast majority of abortions happening at that stage are for medical reasons. Go read some of Dr. Tiller's patients' stories.
9:22 PM Nov 24th
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@ ...than it was at 8 weeks. I don't specialize in elective late-term abortion issues, though, because they're SO rare.
9:21 PM Nov 24th
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@ The "black and white" thing refers to the fact that I acknowledge that a fetus is a LOT closer to being a person at 38 weeks...
9:20 PM Nov 24th
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@ A fetus gets access to full legal rights when it is no longer violating those of its mother. When it leaves her body.
9:19 PM Nov 24th
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@ "Personhood" isn't a scientific term... for my purposes I use "person" as shorthand for "human with Constitutional rights."
9:18 PM Nov 24th
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@ I have no respect for that kind of anti-abortion argument. If you want to talk personhood or bodily domain, that I'll consider.
9:16 PM Nov 24th
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@ Some pro-lifers use arguments like post-abortion trauma and breast cancer as reasons why it should be outlawed.
9:16 PM Nov 24th
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@ I didn't say you had, although the majority of your cohorts do. I'm just saying this means you admit those are dumb arguments.
8:23 PM Nov 24th
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@ The difference between your ridiculous "baby's born but I want it dead!" scenario and normal abortion is huge.
8:21 PM Nov 24th
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@ Unlike you, I don't see every issue as black and white.
8:20 PM Nov 24th
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@ Although it's a much shakier claim when the fetus is born, viable and only separated from personhood by an umbilical cord.
8:20 PM Nov 24th
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@ So are you saying you promise never to use risks/side effects/post-abortion trauma as an argument for why abortion is wrong?
8:19 PM Nov 24th
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@ At that point it's far easier to cut the cord than anything else. But technically bodily domain still applies.
8:17 PM Nov 24th
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@ I answered it earlier. "It doesn't qualify for legal rights until it is no longer attached to the woman."
8:14 PM Nov 24th
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@ Yes, it's totally irrelevant to the question of whether abortion is wrong. Doesn't mean I'll let it sit there unchallenged.
8:12 PM Nov 24th
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@ I'm glad you get so much pleasure out of proving me wrong on the spelling of Suze Orman's name.
8:09 PM Nov 24th
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