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  1. #cetis08 lots of questions and comments from around the room and through twitter too... City (learners) vs Factory (ITServices)???
  2. #cetis08 Bill on the disjuncts of online learning (no eye-contact etc) - Feenberg replies that the potentials are different
  3. #cetis08 Q&A hairdressers, maths teachers... skills "out there in the economy" aren't really taught in universities...
  4. #cetis08 Talk done. Website for Andrew Feenberg: http://www.sfu.ca/~andrewf
  5. #cetis08 the "Factory model" vs the "City model" of education the latter realising human potential and diversity
  6. #cetis08 on the "Social relativity of design" - or "why we don't ride penny farthings"
  7. #cetis08 automated education - canned multimedia lectures etc is still alive and well in the US even if it's not so popular.
  8. #cetis08 on Andrew Ure and the Philosophies of Manufactures: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_Ure
  9. #cetis08 Andrew is reminding us quite how wrong philosophers were when they said that computers will make writing get all techy....
  10. #cetis08 plato: http://english.ttu.edu/Kairos/2.1/features/brent/platowri.htm
  11. #cetis08 in the 90s "automated education" is pushed through due to lack of cash and tech vendors - ignoring the gains of their programme
  12. #cetis08 the different rhythms of online learning turned out to be just as effective as f2f practice
  13. #cetis08 none of the teachers had been in an online classroom and they had no idea what to do! It took time to develop the practice & pedag.
  14. #cetis08 Andrew is showing us a printout from 1982 from the first online course he ran...
  15. #cetis08 but how can we compare education with "products" like cars anyway? you just can't measure it the same way.
  16. #cetis08 compare to any other industry where "tech has reduced the labour content needed to produce a unit of service".......
  17. #cetis08 Andrew is going to give us a philosophical perspective.. A classroom in 1900 would be nearly the same as it is today apart from ppt
  18. #cetis08 Andrew Feenberg is about to give the keynote "The online Education Controversy"
  19. #cetis08 Adam: Nearly finished with the comedy connections - social software, twitter, muves and games
  20. #cetis08 Adam: HUGE STANDARDS ARE PROBLEMS small ones that allow room for adaption are the way to go