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  1. @mfratto I totally disagree. I think they don't protect users in the least.
  2. @scottsanchez I understand that. But that's the market making the decision, not regulations.
  3. @gattaca There are ways to handle that, but again, it's all about transparency.
  4. @GeorgeVHulme Just answering a question :)
  5. Both examples are examples of EU privacy rules killing innovation and removing choce.
  6. Should I not be able to store data from European customers?
  7. at rest, or in transit. And only you, the customer, have the encryption keys. You share them with me only when you are using the service.
  8. #2 I'm an American company with operations (but not a data center) in the EU. I offer a service that never stores your data unencrypted...
  9. @wattersjames Sorry, that was not meant to be an @reply.
  10. @wattersjames If I am armed with that knowledge, why should that service not be able to serve me?
  11. The service says on its home page, "We share all of your photos with the most oppressive regimes on earth and delete them at their request."
  12. #1 I'm an EU customer and I like this really cool service for storing my family photo collection.
  13. Let me put this whol EU privacy thing another way using two examples...
  14. @bensons If I want to put my drunken photos in FB, however, that is subject to the "care" of the market.
  15. @bensons Environmental concerns are not issues subject to "care" of the market. They have an overarching societal issue attached.
  16. @krishnan And the worst kind of regulation is that which results from people thinking, "the market really ought to care"
  17. @krishnan Industry doesn't fail to innovate. What really drives security and privacy wonks nuts is that the market really fails to care.
  18. @krishnan But innovation can.
  19. @krishnan No law can prevent that.
  20. @krishnan A bad one is a law that prescribes how the data should be treated.